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Juventus 0-0 Siena: Robur Fortress Holds Tight, Bianconeri Rue More Lost Points at Home…

One more home match, two more points lost. In spite of the 25-point (and 16 places) difference between the two teams, Juventus just couldn’t get the Siena castle gates open at Juventus Stadium Sunday. Very well in place tactically and aided by a stunning Gianluca Pegolo between the sticks, La Robur denied every opportunity the Bianconeri threw at them, earning a deserved draw that was perhaps only marred by a Vergassola handball inside the box (no penalty given). In a Serie A week-end marred by the bad weather and in which all matches were played at the same time (at 15:00 CET, to avoid the gelid temperatures of the evening), Juventus will look back upon this game as another missed opportunity. With AC Milan’s 0-0 draw against Napoli the status quo is maintained atop the campionato, though Juve still have a game at hand. Aaron and Marco combine to bring you the after-action report of Sunday.
 

MATCH ANALYSIS      (by Aaron Giambattista)

Antonio Conte welcomed former club Siena to the Juventus Stadium in what had all the potential to be a rather boring game. A Bianconeri team struggling against smaller opponents (especially at home) and unable to convert all their chances into goals, against a tactically very well-drilled side with one of the best defensive records in Serie A. Is it any surprise this match ended in a goalless draw? Well, not quite.

It seemed clear what Siena’s strategy was early on in the game: close up shop, defend tightly, and aim to carry home one point. In fairness, it is hard to blame any of the smaller sides in Serie A for following this tactic, because if Siena had attempted a more open game they’d have ended like Parma. La Robur simply can’t match Juve’s firepower in a tit-for-tat.

Back in the Fall Juventus had won the away fixture of this match, defeating their opponents in a very ugly 1-0 win. At home in Torino, the Old Lady had several good scoring chances (the best from Matri, denied by a brilliant save) and the team tallied up 7 shots on net (20 total) while absolutely dominating possession (70%). Siena rarely troubled Buffon, both due to their tactical shape but also the good work of Lichtsteiner and De Ceglie, who pinned Reginaldo and Brienza back into their own half.

Nevertheless, the goals simply did not come. It was simply one of those frustrating matches: the team knew Siena intended to park the proverbial bus, yet despite all the possession, movement, and shots, Juve could not break down a determined Robur defense and a superb goalkeeping display from Gianluca Pegolo. In fact despite all our efforts on goal it was Siena who came closest to winning the game, with Gazzi picking up a rebound from Reginaldo and (fortunately) blasting the tap-in over the bar.

While Siena didn’t steal their point, the Bianconeri can nevertheless feel aggrieved at a rather frustrating reffing decision minutes from time. In the 85th minute, a Chiellini cross from the left wing was met by Simone Vergassola’s arm inside the Siena box, yet despite a very good visual referee Sebastiano Peruzzo waved claims for a penalty off. It’s worth noting the club has only received one penalty in favor (vs. three against) in 21 games, Giaccherini’s upending by Cesena keeper Antonioli the only tally. The comedic factor here of course, is that the only PK the team did receive they probably shouldn’t have, but the rest of the time Juve have had plenty of valid penalty shouts throughout the season, most of which were ignored. A situation which has prompted DG Beppe Marotta to ask “for more respect for Juve” in press outlets, shortly after the match.

With more Calciopoli trial news coming out, the incident comes at a curious time. Luciano Moggi always argued that every team in Serie A spoke with the refereeing designators, a legitimate practice that was actually encouraged as a way of clubs expressing their opinions to refereeing heads. The custom has since then been banned, obviously, and Marotta (like many club presidents before him) has thus chosen to comment on the unfavorable refereeing decision publicly. Airing one’s grievances in public is unfortunate, but is by no means surprising or uncommon in Italy, where such political moves always hope to produce some kind of psychological effect into the persons concerned. For what it’s worth, Juventus have a right to feel wronged because for all the team could have (and should have) played better, that episode could have been the difference between a boring draw and a boring win.

LE PAGELLE      (by Aaron Giambattista)

Buffon 5.5 – Had nearly nothing to do all game, but almost gave Siena a late winner after fumbling a relatively tame shot by Reginaldo. Thankfully, Alessandro Gazzi ballooned the rebound over the bar. Still, a nervous moment and one quite out of recent character for San Gigi.
 


 
Lichtsteiner 7 – Typical performance from the Swiss full-back, who charged up and down the flank, dominating in defense and offering an outlet in attack. Nearly got on the scoresheet again from another brilliant angled pass from Pirlo, almost a complete duplicate of their combination against Atalanta (save for the ball into the back of the net).

Barzagli 6.5 – Normal administration at the back. Had a tricky moment or two against Gonzalez, but gave the Siena strikers no sniffs of goal.

Chiellini 6.5 – Very focused all match. Starting to look like his best again alongside Barzagli. 

De Ceglie 7 – A touch better even than Lichtsteiner this match. Paolino is growing into very good form, and Siena suffered because of it. His crosses were varied and dangerous, and the wing-back probably created the most chances for Juve after Pirlo, none that were finished sadly. Covered his man well defensively.
 


 
Vidal 5.5 – Won a lot of balls in midfield, ran a lot, had a few shots on target (business as usual), but once again had a few moments of very poor passing. King Arturo gotta do better…

Pirlo 6.5 – Despite often being double-team, Andrea extricated himself of Siena attention and dictated the pace of the game, as usual.

Marchisio 6 – An improved display from some of the more quiet ones in January, but not a great one. Attempted to provide a goal threat but wasn’t able to get a clear-cut opportunity.

Pepe sv – Taken off due to injury, it is probably for the better. He didn’t particularly play well until then and frankly, Simone isn’t the type of player we should be starting when we’re facing Siena, at home.

(38′) Giaccherini 6.5 – Probably should have started over Pepe. He’s been compared to Simone for his work rate and versatility, but Giaccherini is frankly a more creative player, especially with his dribbling. Nearly scored on a beautiful curling shot in the end.

Matri 6.5 – Was heavily marked but despite Siena’s tight defense, Matri freed up his teammates and created a few decent scoring chances of his own . Should have had a goal off a corner-kick, but his header was brilliantly saved by Pegolo.

(76′) Quagliarella 5.5 – Worked hard, tried to get open to create chances. Siena gave him no room.

Vucinic 5.5 – The ‘Mirko story’ of this season repeats itself: good enough work rate, good technical ability, but we signed him for more than that. Really needs to start grabbing goals.

(61′) Borriello 5.5 – Reminded me of ‘early Amauri’ somewhat: battled very hard despite the tough defense, but complained too much. That said, he was definitely more useful than the long-haired Brazilian.

 


 
Conte 6Il Mister should know full well how good a tactical side Siena is, with clear plans to squeeze out a draw at Juventus Stadium. And with Juve having problems scoring this season, the manager should have gone with a more creative team (especially against a team liking to park the proverbial bus). Or even alter the formation perhaps, something which the coach realized when he brought on Quagliarella and Borriello. Only too late. 

PLAY-BY-PLAY      (by Marco Pantanella)

 

1st Half:
Buffon
Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Chiellini, De Ceglie
Vidal, Pirlo, Marchisio
Pepe, Matri, Vucinic

 

Temperature at Juventus Stadium is -7ºC. No snow. Being a Montreal-resident myself, let me just say… it could be colder.
As we predicted, Conte reverts back to 4-3-3 and fields exactly our expected starting eleven: Lichsteiner-Barzagli-Chiellini-De Ceglie in the backline, “double M-V-P” occupying the two sections ahead.
On the bench, no space for new signings Cáceres & Padoin. Instead, we have Storari, Bonucci, Marrone, Giaccherini, Borriello, ADP, and Quags (plenty of offensive options for Conte therefore).
1′ Referee Sebastiano Peruzzo officiates. He blows his whistle and we’re off!
3′ Interesting build-up by Juve. Ball moves through to Lichtsteiner on the right, the Swiss international goes for the cross but can’t find a player to connect with it at the center. Udinese clear.
5′ Juventus with a long spell of possession, moving the ball around, building slowly.
7′ Timid reaction by Siena: counter-attack for La Robur with Destro finding some space on the left, skipping past Barzagli, and trying a very speculative effort from long range. Very far wide of Buffon’s goal.
8′ Great effort by Mirko to win the ball back, but his ensuing cross is lot less impressive. Smashes straight into an opponent.
10′ As ever, very high pressure by Juventus into Siena’s half, trying to immediately recover any lost balls.
11′ Del Grosso long-range cross from Siena’s left side. Straight into goal kick.
13′ Good through ball by Marchisio for De Ceglie, but Paolino’s left-wing cross is cleared away.
16′ VIDAL!!! Juve having a tough time opening the Siena backline, so the Chilean tries to do it from long-range! Slamming 25-yard effort which Pegolo can only punch away! It’s eventually cleared…
19′ Great sliding tackle by Pirlo, dispossessing a Siena player from the ball!! Relentless Juventus pressure…
20′ AAARGHHHHH VUCINIC!!! Some great build-up on the right wing between Lichtsteiner and Vidal sends the Swiss right-back for the cross! It lands straight to Vucinic, who scuffs his first-time attempt and somehow, with the ball still hanging close to his feet, cannot reload in time for the second shot! Siena clear!
23′ Vucinic cross from the left wing to find Matri. Straight into goal kick.
25′ Mirko again, penetrating into the Siena box from the left and once again, delivering a cross one has better forget.
27′ Another lost ball by Vucinic, with a poor first touch. Not happy phases of play for Mirko there…
28′ Vidal’s passes so far, despite the player’s efficient pressing, leaving a lot to be desired as well…
30′ MATRI! Dangerous cross from De Ceglie on the left, Rossettini misses the interception and the ball lands to Ale32, but he cannot get it under control or redirect it towards goal!
32′ Another great cross by De Ceglie, headed away by the Siena defense. Juventus building up the pressure!
34′ LICHTSTEINER!!!!!! Out of nothing, defence-cutting pass by Pirlo over the Siena backline that finds the Swiss right-back completely unmarked!! Forrest goes for the left-footed volley over Pegolo, but the keeper’s pounce denies him!! What a great chance for Juve!!
36′ Giaccherini warming up on the sidelines, along with some other Juventus players. Conte likely not too happy with the offensive output of his team so far.
37′ Ugh. A promising Juventus build-up in the center is stopped by a Matri offside.
38′ Substitution Juve: Giaccherini comes on for Pepe. Simone asked to come off… seems to have picked up a knock of some kind.
40′ Reginaldo also warming up for Siena. Hard to see why Siena would change. Their tactic to break down Juve’s attacks working fairly well at the moment (albeit at the complete cost of their offensive production).
43′ Vucinic!! Matri cross straight from the byline, Mirko tries to redirect it at the far post, but his difficult left-footed volley is over and wide.
45′ Following a Siena corner, Vitiello goes from long-range. Miles over the bar and wide.
46′ De Ceglie a constant danger on the left with his crosses. But the Juve forwards just can’t get on the other end of them!
46′ Referee blows for half-time. 0-0 after a frustrating 45 minutes. Siena’s defense a tough customer, as expected.

2nd Half:
Buffon
Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Chiellini, De Ceglie
Vidal, Pirlo, Marchisio
Pepe(38′Giaccherini), Matri(76′Quagliarella), Vucinic(61′Borriello)

 

46′ No changes for either team at the half, though Borriello & Quagliarella started and continue their warm-up on the Juve sideline.
48′ Just outside the Siena box, Matri controls the ball and goes for a difficult mid-range half-volley. About 5 yards wide of target.
51′ Hard work by Lichtsteiner on the right wing, fights and wins the ball back to clear space for the cross. His delivery is met by Vucinic, but Mirko’s header is weak and doesn’t trouble Pegolo!
55′ Marchisio goes for the shot from mid-range. Deflected into CK. Seems like whenever Juve push up the pace with a good piece of individual skill, this Siena defense buckles. Might just be the key to today’s match.
55′ CHIELLINI!!! Great header by Giorgio on that corner, Pegolo parries it onto the feet of De Ceglie!! But the referee stops the play for an offensive foul…
56′ Substitution Siena: Gonzalez comes on for Calaiò.
58′ Borriello taking off his substitutes’ pinnie. Looks like he’ll be next to come on.
58′ Matri!! A low De Ceglie cross finds Ale32 inside the box. The forward tries to spin around and place it at the far post (like he did against Udinese) but finds the foot a defender blocking the way!
59′ Great dribbling work on the left by Giaccherini. He’s fouled. Juve get a good FK.
59′ PIRLO!!!!!! Andrea’s delivery is headed straight for the top-right corner, but once again Pegolo’s there to deny!!!
60′ UGH!! Pirlo aerial ball, Vucinic headed redirect, ball lands to Vidal who controls and turns around for the shot from inside Siena’s box!! Deflected away into corner off a defender’s foot! Nothing comes out of it.
61′ Substitution Juve: Borriello comes on for Vucinic. Juve back to a traditional 4-4-2, Giaccherini on the right, Marchisio on the left.
62′ MATRI!!!!!! Slamming header by the Juventus forward off a corner-kick!!! Pegolo flies up to parry it out!!! Will this ball ever go in!!
64′ Rinse & repeat: De Ceglie left-wing cross, Matri can’t get it under control. It’s happened a lot today…
66′ Matri free on the right, tries to find Borriello at the far post. Intercepted by Rossettini and cleared.
68′ JUVE AGAIN! Pirlo cross from the left, lands to Matri at the far post! His volley is cleared! Ball back to Juve, with Vidal trying a low shot from mid-range!! Pegolo gets down to smother the ball!
69′ Substitution Siena: Reginaldo comes on for Giorgi.
71′ BORRIELLO! Great left-wing cross from Marchisio to find the ex-Roma forward, but the latter’s header is off target from a good position!
72′ Yellow card Pegolo. The Siena keeper goes in the book for timewasting.
73′ Substitution Siena: Parravicini comes on for Destro.
73′ Good God. Yet another ball stays in the Siena box and cannot be redirected towards goal by a Juve player (all in the wrong place at the right time). Siena clear.
74′ Yellow card Barzagli, for a late tackle on Gonzalez through on the right side. Replays showing the Siena player had jumped over Andrea’s challenge, and then flopped. FK Siena from good position.
75′ FK swung in dangerously by Brienza, Buffon flies to punch it away. CK. Cleared away by Lichtsteiner.
76′ Substitution Juve: Quagliarella comes in for Matri.
79′ Pirlo goes from long range. It takes a bounce off the ground, but well into the arms of Pegolo.
83′ Yellow card Borriello for dissent, after a foul called against the ex-Roma forward.
85′ Appeals for a Juve penalty waved away, as a Chiellini cross hits Vergassola’s arms straight in front of the referee!! Off the other end Gonzalez escapes from Barzagli and is clear on goal, but the Juve defender gets back just in time and nicks the forward’s effort over the bar!!
87′ GAZZI… 8-O . 8-O . Reginaldo shot parried away by Buffon. He can’t get it under control. Gazzi goes for the rebound with a wide open net and puts it wide! 8-O My heart, along with the entire Juventus Stadium, skipped a beat.
88′ Buffon not happy. Referee asked him if he touched Gazzi’s shot, but after the keeper said “No” ref gave a Siena corner anyway. Off it, Juve can’t get the ball clear: play continues with a pass to Brienza into space on the left. His low cross can’t find a teammate and the ball is eventually (painstakingly) removed from danger!
89′ Long ball forward by Pirlo, Borriello’s header is wide.
90′ Lichtsteiner cross from the right too short for Quagliarella. saved by Pegolo.
90′ FOUR MINUTES OF ADDED TIME.
91′ GIACCHERINI!!!!!! Great interplay between Quagliarella and Borriello frees up Giac24 inside the box! He tries an inswinging effort to the far corner, just a yard over the bar!!!! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
92′ Yellow card Chiellini for a tactical foul on Parravicini.
93′ Groan. Siena FK for a De Ceglie high kick on Reginaldo.
93′ Yellow card Parravicini for encroachment.
94′ CHIELLINI!!!!! Ball lofted forward from the free kick. Redirected/cleared, it lands to Giorgio just outside the box who goes for the right-footed volley!!! But it’s parried away by Pegolo again!! Borriello tries to redirect it on the way and is called for offside.
94′ Full-time. Juventus 0-0 Siena. Ugh.

ANALYSIS WRAP-UP      (by Aaron Giambattista)

Another home draw is indeed disappointing, and we cannot blame the referee for our inability to defeat the Tuscan Bianconeri. Credit must go to Sannino and Siena, for a truly impressive defensive display and becoming the first opponent to maintain a clean sheet at Juventus Stadium.

AC Milan may have a miserable record against the top teams this season (having failed to defeat Napoli, Udinese, Juventus, or Inter in a rather embarrassing string of results) and yet, they are absolutely devastating against the minnows (particularly thanks to minnow-killer Zlatan Ibrahimovic). It is for this reason that, in early February, they are still well in place to make a title run. By contrast, a major undoing to our side in the last few years is the Bianconeri’s difficulty at defeating smaller teams. Gigi Delneri’s record against the top sides was superb, but that won him nothing aside from a pink slip.

There is a difference between the way Conte’s Juve takes on these “less-decorated” teams compared to its predecessors. Juventus under Delneri, Ferrara, Zaccheroni, and Ranieri all looked unambitious against the provinciali: they watched the game go by, played defensive (sometimes atrociously), and most of the time just didn’t seem to be bothered. On the other hand Conte’s side dominates possession, creates plenty of chances and, determined to carry out a well-thought tactical plan, is very far from looking to be sleep-walking. And yet, results this season show it still isn’t enough.

At this point, Antonio Conte must recognize that his starting XI (and formation) against the smaller sides, especially at home, cannot be the same as in other matches. Playing Alessandro Matri up top by himself works against Inter and Udinese, but he’s too heavily marked by a team like Siena. Workmanlike players are essential to the team, but against a team parking the bus, it’d help to have more incisiveness in the lineup.

The 4-3-3 with the dual M-V-P midfield/striking lineup has served Juventus very well. It is defensively solid, builds great possession in midfield, and can cut big teams open with the differing characteristics of the front three players. But against the provincial teams it just doesn’t seem to be offensive enough, and perhaps Conte should do well to further experiment with a 3-5-2 or even a 4-4-2 again.

Il Mister has shown great tactical acumen and brilliance to shift formations depending on the situation. He dropped the 4-4-2 to make room for Vidal, played Vucinic as the lone striker against AC Milan, and mirrored Udinese and Napoli’s unique systems with a tailored 3-5-2 set-up. It’s time for one last tactical innovation: a team with enough strikers to escape their markers, and enough creativity to ensure the Sienas and the Cagliaris leave Juventus Stadium with a loss. Not fly back South with a point and a smile on their faces.
 
 

In Conte We Trust!

 
 
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Juventus F.C.
JUVENTUS-SIENA
0-0
A.C. Siena
GOALSCORERS: /
JUVENTUS (4-3-3): Buffon – Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Chiellini, De Ceglie – Vidal, Pirlo, Marchisio – Pepe (38′ Giaccherini), Matri (76′ Quagliarella), Vucinic (61′ Borriello). COACH: Conte.
(UNUSED SUBSTITUTES: Storari, Bonucci, Marrone, Del Piero).
SIENA (4-4-2): Pegolo – Vitiello, Rossettini, Terzi, Del Grosso – Giorgi (69′ Reginaldo), Vergassola, Gazzi, Brienza – Destro (73′ Parravicini), Calaiò (51′ Gonzalez). COACH: Sannino.
(UNUSED SUBSTITUTES: Farelli, Contini, D’Agostino, A.Rossi).

 

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  • Joshua

    Aside from the utter negativity of the match, I liked what I saw with De Ceglie. I’m glad Conte decided to put faith in him, and now it’s beginning to reap dividends. However, that Borriello sub was retarded. Juve clearly needed more brilliance and creativity, and Conte would have done better to bring on ADP. That said, we’re still unbeaten, but we really need to buck up against baby teams.

    • Anonymous

      I agree- Borriello not a great sub. Against these teams it’s better to have mobile strikers than big men that can be roughly marked out of the game. I liked when we played Esti-Quags-Pepe (I think it was Esti) against Novara. Quags mov’t meant they couldn’t man mark him. Borriello the opposite.

      I’ve always been a big fan of Paolino so it’s great to see him getting a good run out. Was shelved too quickly at the beginning of this season IMO.

  • Anonymous

    Very precise and correct as usual,guys!
    I personally must agree with your view about Coach approach of smallest opponents.
    Yes we must play more powerfully in home games against teams like Siena and this is gonna happen once we have 2 strikers selection or 2 creative attacking and technically gifted players instead of Pepe and Vuc ( who i think was bad this game but not in general).
    We definitely need Elia-Giacherrini type of attacking force in our MVP upfront to support either Matri,Vuc  or Quaqsi. I don’t believe Borrielo is gonna give us boost at all so….
    I personally think that using Vucinic as Center forward together Quaqs, Giach or Elia is not pointless.
    In this games we are missing mainly spark upfront the goal – simply because Vucinic is too busy on the flank to escape front his bodyguards and to support Matri and Pepe is useless in games like this.
    I personally think that our MVP in center needs some refreshment too. Pirlo was magnificent to keep the pressure in Siena squad but MArchisio-Vidal didn’t create too much support for attacker. In other games they have more space to attack when we play grands but here is different matter. Conte must try with Giacherrini more in center like in Roma game , it was really exciting to watch him there. We can benefit of that. He can replace any of the 2 men there.
    To change permanently tactic on 3-5-2 is not a good solution because once we have tricky attackers we will loose IMO. For now Conte showed good flexibility on the game but he needs one more push in home game to win easily this battles.
    I don’t know what is wrong with Elia but even if his behavior  is bad he needs to have some chances in games like that. Also Qualiarella needs to play more – in Atalanta’s game he showed great power and vision which helps Matri so, why are not we playing both?this can solve our attacking issues for a while!
    Apart all being said above we gotta give credit to SIena – they were really organized and deserved the point definitely!
    I expect to smash Milan tomorrow with Quaqs- Matri -ADP(Elia) upfront. Also to have Casseres in is not bad idea ata all.
    They will play with all the starters available even Ibra who is gonna miss derby in the race. We need a win to improve our self believe for the rest of the season and for the game in 6th round mainly – once we beat them tomorrow we will win the next one too.
    Anyway, we don’t have to be so critical and support our coach – he still steading some things so, even like this we are on the top and we look to be there for a very long time there in the FUTURE.

  • https://profiles.google.com/WPazzurri/about Weston (@wpazzurri)

    I’ve never been a big fan of the 3-5-2, and with Gasperini’s dreadful display at Inter I thought it would die along with the 2011 year, but like someone on here mentioned before, it has enjoyed quite the renaissance. With that, and the current squad available in mind, here is what I’ve got set on in my mind as our best possible formation:

    (3-5-2)

    Quagliarella-Matri
    DeCeglie-Marchisio-Pirlo-Vidal-Lichtsteiner
    Chiellini-Barzagli-Caceres
    Buffon

    I for one would really like to see Quagliarella-Matri play up top together; this would serve to un-isolate Matri, and dammit I will never give up on Fabio. Also, I think the two of them getting on the end of De Ceglie’s crossing regularly could be fantastic, especially after they inevitably improve with his change in position, his favored wingback. Estigarribia and Pepe can sub for the wingback slots. Caceres would get to play in his favored position in the center of defense, switching out with Bonucci as form allows.

    What do you think?

    • http://www.rcl.nl/ Chuks A.

      Since Conte has opted to play Pepe/Giach in a central winger position a few times this season, I think Elia could sub in for Quags too and play a free central winger position (like Alexis did with Udinese last season) as an alternative option maybe

      • Anonymous

        it makes sense,definitely!

    • http://iltifosi.tumblr.com/ Adam Digby

      I’ve mentioned this on Twitter but it bears repeating here, the 3-5-2 has been successful because of Bonucci’s ability to play the central role in the back three. He brings a skill set to it that none of the other central defenders possess, his ability on the ball being the obvious one but also the leadership he displays when fielded there. People can knock that & deride it as much as they like but if you actually watch the way the line operates in that formation he’s the one talking, making decisions about when to push for offside & when to sit deep. There are any number of stats to back this up but in all honesty they are superfluous, all you have to do is sit & watch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michał-Janowski/100000522494894 Michał Janowski

    I am not really that certain if Conte chose the wrong formation, however some players seem to behave like they were utterly convinced that Antonio will add to the the starting eleven regardless of their disposition. Overall we have the right to feel disappointed, that win would really give us some breathing space in the top spot. 

  • http://www.rcl.nl/ Chuks A.

    Our inability to finish off chances comes back to haunt us yet again.

    • skipdiv77(@DavidAmoyal)

      Juve still has only 3 less goals scored than the second best offense as far as goals scored in Serie A. The team is creating a ton of chances that is why it looks like team is not clinical enough

      • http://www.rcl.nl/ Chuks A.

        Fair point, but to me, chance conversion rate (relative to chances conceded) is much more important than chances created rate, if you get what I mean

  • Vittorio

    The only thing even close to pleasure I got from this match was watching Pirlo weave in and out of traffic and picking out passes. What an amazing player, with talent to burn. Too bad no one could do anything with it. It should be obvious to Conte by now that without a creative player up top, nothing will happen. I know I sound like a broken record, but ADP needs to come in. Wouldn’t you rather have him than Vucinic’s weak shots on goal, or Borriello’s general haplessness? Or play Giaccherini higher up, anything to stop this Vucinic starting experiment. Quagliarella would be better as well, although he needs to get to full fitness.

    Next season, we need a fantasista to take ADP’s place. I really hope Giovinco’s attitude to Juve (while totally justified) softens a little, and he’s just being defensive for the sake of it. It’s time to give him a full shot, and I think Conte is the man to do it. So what if he’s small? Let someone else be tall. So what if he’s not strong? Let someone else provide muscle (although that Nazionale assist for Matri last year after holding off the central defender was nothing to laugh at).

    I’d like to see Marrone play tomorrow. I think we’ll get to see Padoin as well. 

  • skipdiv77(@DavidAmoyal)

    Marchisio, Pepe and especially Vidal have been very mediocre since 2012 started. They were the best and most consistent players on the team with Lichsteiner and Barzagli between September and January. This is very concerning. I am however happy to see Chiellini returning to his form of 2008 and 2009 now that he is back in the middle of the defense playing with Barzagli. De Ceglie is establishing himself at LB but against tougher opponents we can also use Caceres whose versatility makes him a great alternative to our starters, and Bonucci has played much better this season. Juve has its best and deepest defense since the Capello days when we had Zambrotta, Thuram, Tudor, Montero and Ferrara.

    • http://www.juventiknows.com Marco P.

      Disagree on Marchisio, Pepe, or Vidal.

      Marchisio’s form has certainly dipped, but people are noticing mainly because he’s not scoring every game anymore. He still finds ways to contribute without putting the ball into the back of the net, be it through the runs that he makes, his crosses, or vital moment within the time he is on (see the assist for Matri vs. Udinese).

      Pepe’s current output is one he has accustomed us to his whole career. Just because he raised the bar so significantly in the Fall, people all of a sudden expect him to do wonders in every match. That’s really unrealistic. The truth is that Pepe’s never been that flamboyant, CR7-type player to dish out assists or goals left & right: he’s a hard worker. So he’s not been involved in the fulcrum of Juve’s play recently, but he’s had to deal with injuries the past few weeks so until he recovers, Giaccherini can fill for him no problem.

      As for Vidal, same note on ‘hard work’ applies. He’s still there pressuring the shit out the opponent, winning balls back, and even trying a few shots from long range that are usually on target, but I’ll admit that his passing could definitely use an improvement.

      • skipdiv77(@DavidAmoyal)

        Marco I would agree with you somewhat on Pepe who was playing over his head in fall of 2011. But let’s not forget he was also playing for Italy prior to joining Juve so he is not a slouch that became a star on Juve. I would like to see Esti or Giaccherini taking over for him in recent games.
        I personally have always felt Marchisio was slightly overrated by Juve fans, I have fallen victim to the lazy comparison to Tardelli in the past but he is not there quite yet. I think his drop in form goes beyond his lack of scoring goals recently, there are games where he basically disappears.
        By looking at the recent pagelles on your great site it seems we are pretty close in our opinions of the recent decline for Pepe, Marchisio and especially Vidal whose passing has been reminiscent of (gulp) Felipe Melo recently. But he is clearly a better player than Felipe and at least cost about half transfer fee wise.

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